18 July 2006

Poverty despite mobile 'phone possession

Nablus - an Israeli soldier was blown up yesterday. LGF covers the story here. Apparently the locals cheered and carried away body parts - although the body parts were returned through the PA to the IDF. To take a body part of a dead Jew such that the body is not buried whole has serious implications from a resurrection/messianic age point of view. When suicide bombers and terorists blow up Israelis, the guys who go in to collect the bodies frequently have to gather many, tiny, body parts up and spend quite some time allocating the parts out such that each victim is buried as near to "complete" as can be. No mean feat if the bomb went off in a packed area. So nice one, run off with the body parts.

Anyway, the point I was going to make was this -

Whilst the locals were cheering and removing the body parts, some people (including children) were taking photographs of the events on their mobile telephones. Getty Images has a photograph of one delightful such scamp.
Surely this goes some way to counter-balance that stupid argument that the Palestinians have nothing to fight with apart from their bodies (or whatever it was Cherry Blair/ Booth said). These guys are obviously not that close to the bread line if they've got mobile telephones. I know it's not the same as a picture of a child in Versace gear and gold jewellery, but it does tell me something about the level of poverty in these areas. That it isn't actually poverty. And the poor kids - to be witnessing those kind of events, to be so immune to suffering and humanity that it doesn't even seem odd to want to remember the details and photograph the scene.

5 Comments:

Blogger Spoony Quine said...

` What if someone is already missing body parts.... besides genital parts? Or even those, too. Like, what if someone was missing a hand or an appendix or something while they were still alive?

6:27 pm  
Blogger Spoony Quine said...

` Oh, also I was gonna say; it's not so much as they have enough money for phones as it is that the phones are taking over!! Bwa haaa!

6:36 pm  
Blogger Chaya said...

To your second - not quite sure what you mean.

To your first - slightly confusing as far as I recall. The rabbis who wrote the Mishna (I think around 200CE) seemed to suggest that if you were *born* with one arm, you'd be resurrected with one arm. Which I agree is fairly clear-cut. However, what if no-one recognised you?

What about those who lost limbs/ organs during their life? Well, this all leads to the biggie - at what age will we be resurrected?

Obviously to resurrect someone as they were when last alive you'd end up with many people in poor condition - they'd died, they couldn't have been in that good shape!

So, when? In our prime? But what if our children didn't recognise us? And if you were married twice, which spouse would you be with in the world to come?

I don't know. The general view on these questions seemed to be that we leave that to the messiah to sort out when he comes.

One of the things on my list is to find out whether Jews can be organ donors, and what Halachic implications there would be.

7:54 pm  
Blogger Chaya said...

d'oh - our kids would probably recognise us; *we* wouldn't recognise *them*.

11:21 pm  
Blogger Spoony Quine said...

` Interesting... it makes me wonder about a similar issue: If you were to be ressurected in one particular stage of your life, what state would your mind be in? You are 'you' when you are a small child and when you are much older. So, would you be 'you' at all stages, or just a continuation of the way you were when you died, or what?
` Apparently, the messiah has plenty of work cut out - no pun intended ;)

7:47 pm  

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